Death Penalty, yes or no

[mavs4life]

That would be better TV than anything that the BBC and C4 can come up and would be the highlight of the week if they actually showed it without blurring it all out at the moment we would like to see.

I'm pretty sure public executions aren't a thing for a reason... but with that being said, maybe just maybe it would deter people from committing other crimes?

On the flip side of this argument, imagine showing a public execution and then 6 months later realizing they sentenced the wrong person? The fallout for that would be so massive and immense, it may actually scare the police and legal system to do a better job too!

 

[pabloescaban]

And maybe just maybe, if the parents of this gormless looking freak that killed the Southport kids had disciplined him during his useless existence, it may not have happened.
But that's frowned upon nowadays.
Disciplining kids is abuse.
You can't discipline kids and you can't punish adults, apart from grounding them, or in the case of adults, locking them in a room for a short while, basically the same thing, it's hardly a surprise that this happens.

If they thought they might lose their lives, or at least half an inch of back skin, they might have second thoughts about doing it.

If their thoughts are, 'I'll get grounded/jailed', and considering they've already spent the past 5 or 10 years alone in their room, it's not a deterrent, they're in a slightly different room and nothing else changes except they get free food.

I don't think this creature wants to do 52 years of having his poo hole being stretched to the size of a jam jar, so they should offer him a deal of a personal one shot cyanide injection after 15 years on the proviso that he has to do it himself. Give him something to look forward to.

 

[Wellyfish]

If their thoughts are, 'I'll get grounded/jailed', and considering they've already spent the past 5 or 10 years alone in their room, it's not a deterrent, they're in a slightly different room and nothing else changes except they get free food.

This assumes they are capable of rational thought and they are able to weigh up the consequences of their actions before they act.

 

[mavs4life]

This assumes they are capable of rational thought and they are able to weigh up the consequences of their actions before they act.

This is definitely a big part of it. For some people this part of their brain just doesn't work. So if you punish the person, beat the person, any of it, they either don't care, can't correlate the consequences, or any of it. This is a big part of why mental health and mental health support comes into play.

 

[sandra51]

I'm pretty sure public executions aren't a thing for a reason... but with that being said, maybe just maybe it would deter people from committing other crimes?

On the flip side of this argument, imagine showing a public execution and then 6 months later realizing they sentenced the wrong person? The fallout for that would be so massive and immense, it may actually scare the police and legal system to do a better job too!

With they evidence of reliable witnesses like the people who saw the Southport Monster murder those children and attack other children and adults and those two who murdered Lee Rigby and modern forensic methods then I think we can definitely say that the Southport Monster and those two who proudly stood there waving their knives while saying why they had murdered Lee Rigby, then mistakes that may have happened 70 years ago would not happen now.

 

[mavs4life]

With they evidence of reliable witnesses like the people who saw the Southport Monster murder those children and attack other children and adults and those two who murdered Lee Rigby and modern forensic methods then I think we can definitely say that the Southport Monster and those two who proudly stood there waving their knives while saying why they had murdered Lee Rigby, then mistakes that may have happened 70 years ago would not happen now.

Oh in this instance I agree... this monster is guilty and if the death penalty was an option, it should be implemented immediately. I was more so talking about other cases where people are sentenced to death and the evidence is not exactly quite as strong. Eye witness accounts are proven to be wildly inaccurate at times and sadly forensic evidence can be tampered with.

I'm actually in support of the death penalty.... I just truly believe we need to be 100% certain for before sentencing someone to it.