See what i mean..Ht on the ball in exactly 2hrs and 11 minutes....And its not a case of "ah well no pleasing some folk"... just stating the point someone has paid multiple times for a service and they cant deliver.. but still kept taking their money..!! They should take a leaf out of the KV book and not just think about the dollar...their boxes are sub free and they are still in business.. so that just tells you its not all about the user just bankrolling their profits but more like... A one off fee for the box will do us sweet..!! A700,A750,A780 and 850HD....the rest is history as they say... Ted
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KV=sub free..always has been..where you been for last god knows how long..!! I had a dbox before..sub free and i will admit this right here now(through gritted teeth..lol) i even had a "SV aka The super box"...and guess what TB1988.... that was sub free as well funny enough..!! So are subs really necessary..? or is it just greed..! In your case sounds more like the latter...