Motorised dish second box tuner settings

[joysleep1]

I thought that too, but...........

If you use a splitter and turn on both boxes at same time, the splitter will trip out and give you sweet fa on both boxes, until you fully disconnect it and reconnect it again (if you leave it too long you end up with burned out splitter(s), ask me how I know).

The goobay switch, doesn't trip out but some boxes keep power to the lnb even when in standby, so those boxes need to be on the slave side.

So what would your suggestion be if I wanted to use my ultimo 4k and my viark 4k box.
Which one would be the master and slave?

I know for sure they would not both be used at the same time but would like to protect myself in case my accident this happens.

Thanks

 

[cokeaddict]

So what would your suggestion be if I wanted to use my ultimo 4k and my viark 4k box.
Which one would be the master and slave?

I know for sure they would not both be used at the same time but would like to protect myself in case my accident this happens.

Thanks

Viark is master, Ultimo4K is slave

 

[joysleep1]

Viark is master, Ultimo4K is slave

OK thanks for your advice.
Will keep that in mind. I think to protect myself I put the viark in deep standby when I've finished watching because I need my vu ultimo 4k on at all times

 

[cokeaddict]

OK thanks for your advice.
Will keep that in mind. I think to protect myself I put the viark in deep standby when I've finished watching because I need my vu ultimo 4k on at all times

Viark in standby is enough, I have the Sat 4K as master an Ultimo4K as slave.

 

[joysleep1]

Viark in standby is enough, I have the Sat 4K as master an Ultimo4K as slave.

Yes but in the accidently case if someone downstairs touches the remote to take out of standby and happens to fall into a different channel to the upstairs motor then I'm screwed.
I can always use my phone to FTP my ultimo into standby mode or check it's not actively on the tuner before turning on my viark but I won't be able to control viark using my phone.

Its unlikely that will happen tbf.

 

[kegnkiwi]

I thought that too, but...........

If you use a splitter and turn on both boxes at same time, the splitter will trip out and give you sweet fa on both boxes, until you fully disconnect it and reconnect it again (if you leave it too long you end up with burned out splitter(s), ask me how I know).

The goobay switch, doesn't trip out but some boxes keep power to the lnb even when in standby, so those boxes need to be on the slave side.

I found that it can also be image dependent that sometimes the lnb is powered up. I've had boxes in deep standy and been outside a look up and see the motor is powered up. I've also seen it on two e2 boxes that one of them only allows certain channels and other grayes out. Similar to how channels from other transponder look if you record something on a single tuner box when the other channels are greyed out.

 

[Drox]

Yes but in the accidently case if someone downstairs touches the remote to take out of standby and happens to fall into a different channel to

You sound a bit like her

 

[joysleep1]

Viark in standby is enough, I have the Sat 4K as master an Ultimo4K as slave.

Interesting you say this, cos its the same set up i plan to do come May when i get someone to install my dish.
With your ultimo 4k, is regular standby sufficient to keep the motor off when not in use?
Also what image are you running on your ultimo 4k

 

[manic01]

Yes but in the accidently case if someone downstairs touches the remote to take out of standby and happens to fall into a different channel to the upstairs motor then I'm screwed.
I can always use my phone to FTP my ultimo into standby mode or check it's not actively on the tuner before turning on my viark but I won't be able to control viark using my phone.

Its unlikely that will happen tbf.

You over think things too much.
Anyways lets see how your installer does, not many about now 👍

 

[joysleep1]

You over think things too much.
Anyways lets see how your installer does, not many about now 👍

Hi

I sent that a while ago. Not really worried about that. I just didnt want my motor burning out because its a headache to call my guy if it needs replacement cos of a mistake i did.
I already have a person who who installs my dishes for me.

 

[manic01]

Hi

I sent that a while ago. Not really worried about that. I just didnt want my motor burning out because its a headache to call my guy if it needs replacement cos of a mistake i did.
I already have a person who who installs my dishes for me.

How many motors have you heard of burning out because of that?
Rough estimate will do?

 

[cokeaddict]

Interesting you say this, cos its the same set up i plan to do come May when i get someone to install my dish.
With your ultimo 4k, is regular standby sufficient to keep the motor off when not in use?
Also what image are you running on your ultimo 4k

No idea, my Stab motor doesn't have any lights on it.

 

[joysleep1]

How many motors have you heard of burning out because of that?
Rough estimate will do?

Yh true i guess.

No idea, my Stab motor doesn't have any lights on it.

Appreciate the response
Oh interesting so the stab motor has no indication the motor is on.
So if your ultimo 4k is in standby then you have no issues with your viark viewing the channels and moving the motor?
I take it you dont have any other tuners on your ultimo 4k but if for example you had it turned on on like a radio channel or something which is NOT using the tuner, would the viark still be able to control the motor?

 

[cokeaddict]

Appreciate the response
Oh interesting so the stab motor has no indication the motor is on.
So if your ultimo 4k is in standby then you have no issues with your viark viewing the channels and moving the motor?
I take it you dont have any other tuners on your ultimo 4k but if for example you had it turned on on like a radio channel or something which is NOT using the tuner, would the viark still be able to control the motor?

Ultimo4K as slave, then you can do what you like with the Viark, it will over ride whatever the Ultimo4K tries to do (as the Viark is the master), so if you use Ultimo4K on (13E for example) then you switch on the Viark and want to watch 19.2E, the Viark will move the dish and the Ultimo4K freezes with no signal.

If you then turn off the Viark, the Ultimo4K won't regain control of the motor, until you change channel again (so you would need to select a channel on 19.2E first to get a signal, and then you can select whatever sat you want).

If you connect another turner to a fixed dish on the Ultimo4K, then you can use that as much as you want, it won't matter if the Viark is on or off as the tuner for the motor is the only one, linked in any way to the Viark.

It's pointless you worrying about this, until you have all the kit and equipment setup, you will drive yourself and everyone else mad otherwise.

 

[joysleep1]

Ultimo4K as slave, then you can do what you like with the Viark, it will over ride whatever the Ultimo4K tries to do (as the Viark is the master), so if you use Ultimo4K on (13E for example) then you switch on the Viark and want to watch 19.2E, the Viark will move the dish and the Ultimo4K freezes with no signal.

If you then turn off the Viark, the Ultimo4K won't regain control of the motor, until you change channel again (so you would need to select a channel on 19.2E first to get a signal, and then you can select whatever sat you want).

If you connect another turner to a fixed dish on the Ultimo4K, then you can use that as much as you want, it won't matter if the Viark is on or off as the tuner for the motor is the only one, linked in any way to the Viark.

It's pointless you worrying about this, until you have all the kit and equipment setup, you will drive yourself and everyone else mad otherwise.

Yes i understand what you are saying but i did not know there was no light switch indication on your motor. (i assumed all motors have a power on indication light)I am only going by what others have said where the power is still being given to the motor even when in standby mode meaning the motor light stays on when its not supposed to.

I am just asking so i have the information at hand rather finding out what i need to do last minute and my questions have been valid. I get what you are saying completely cos in theory the power should only be drawn when the tuner is active but like others have said, power can still be given to the motor even if in standby mode indicating the motor and signal is in use when its actually not.

I learned something new about the master taking control in the way you explained so thanks for that.

 

[joysleep1]

Ultimo4K as slave, then you can do what you like with the Viark, it will over ride whatever the Ultimo4K tries to do (as the Viark is the master), so if you use Ultimo4K on (13E for example) then you switch on the Viark and want to watch 19.2E, the Viark will move the dish and the Ultimo4K freezes with no signal.

If you then turn off the Viark, the Ultimo4K won't regain control of the motor, until you change channel again (so you would need to select a channel on 19.2E first to get a signal, and then you can select whatever sat you want).

If you connect another turner to a fixed dish on the Ultimo4K, then you can use that as much as you want, it won't matter if the Viark is on or off as the tuner for the motor is the only one, linked in any way to the Viark.

It's pointless you worrying about this, until you have all the kit and equipment setup, you will drive yourself and everyone else mad otherwise.

So going by that logic, if you have the VIARK box turned on (actively using the tuner), then the rest of the satellites will be greyed (except 28.2e cos i have my other tuner fixed) out on my ultimo 4k and it would just be unavailable to view right. (unable to take control)
And when you say "turn of the viark" that would simply mean put that receiver in stanby (not switch off or hard shudtown) which would then allow the ultimo 4k to see the satellite the motor was last moved to right? (and then take control after it gets signal)

 

[cokeaddict]

So going by that logic, if you have the VIARK box turned on (actively using the tuner), then the rest of the satellites will be greyed (except 28.2e cos i have my other tuner fixed) out on my ultimo 4k and it would just be unavailable to view right. (unable to take control)
And when you say "turn of the viark" that would simply mean put that receiver in stanby (not switch off or hard shudtown) which would then allow the ultimo 4k to see the satellite the motor was last moved to right? (and then take control after it gets signal)

Nothing gets greyed out, as the ultimo4k doesn't know it doesn't have control of the motor.

Yes by off I mean standby.

The Ultimo4K doesn't know where the Viark moved the dish too, so you have to remember what you were watching on the Viark, then select a channel from that satellite on the Ultimo4K before it will get signal on the tuner connected to the motor again and it will need the signal before it will move the dish.

 

[joysleep1]

Nothing gets greyed out, as the ultimo4k doesn't know it doesn't have control of the motor.

Yes by off I mean standby.

The Ultimo4K doesn't know where the Viark moved the dish too, so you have to remember what you were watching on the Viark, then select a channel from that satellite on the Ultimo4K before it will get signal on the tuner connected to the motor again and it will need the signal before it will move the dish.

Oh right ok i understand so by choosing a satellite it was facing restores the power to the motor right?

Now i get what you are saying, so at-least now i know that if both receivers are in standby and my light is still it on, it should not be a problem with the way it needs to work. I also now know that whatever my ultimo is doing the VIARK can take over (even tho i will never leave my ultimo 4k on with the motorised tuner active)
Altho i have to clarify that when i mean tuner A and B its the same TUNER physically as the FBC satellite tuner it just has two LNB inputs. (here's hoping the LNB 2 will be able to keep my motor light off when both are on standby so my electricity bill doesn't sky rocket)

Thanks for your input, really appreciate it.

 

[manic01]

In case you are worried about power consumption, average diseqc motor

Standby
Powered up but not performing a demand to change position
100mA

Moving to a Vertical TP
Moving with 13V supply
200mA

Moving to a Horizontal TP
Moving with 18V supply
350mA (Max)

 

[joysleep1]

In case you are worried about power consumption, average diseqc motor

Standby
Powered up but not performing a demand to change position
100mA

Moving to a Vertical TP
Moving with 13V supply
200mA

Moving to a Horizontal TP
Moving with 18V supply
350mA (Max)

Thanks for the info.