Hi mate im down to basics now reflashed box to factory settings (altough not sure it did it correctly as grogs monkey is still showing) i thought that would have cleared? Anyway i only have lan connected from router but what i have found is when i went to network information the link status came on for 20 secs (green light) then went off? Could you check the status of your box please to see if the green light is on Cheers ChrisalMorning cactikid pretty much the same except primary and secondary dns on mine are 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4