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bazcfc1 said:
Just wait till weekend I bet most if not all who has jumped to servers with raw streams on them are blocked when epl kicks off just my opinion
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Yes the plauge of IPTV blocked because of football :laughing: I prefer to watch a film or documentaries but I am an old sod :ROFLMAO:
 
urie said:
I did old enough to remember the bad film.


Thought you did not need one If you had decent provider :ROFLMAO: and yes I have vpn but prefer not to use if possble but some use all the time for me personnally I cannot stream a 4k film with vpn on.
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you don’t if you provider that knows what there doing security wise bud.
Don’t see point in vpns tbh cause all these that say they don’t keep logs is a load of shite as they all do and some will kill speeds some won’t hardly touch your speeds.
Personally don’t use one not even for torrents can’t stand vpns suppose I like to be RAW 🤣🤣🤣
channelking said:
Same unless issues with vpn will use it but rarely use it.
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That dosnt make sense bud I read it as unless you have issues with vpn you will use it but you rarely use it???
 
bazcfc1 said:
you don’t if you provider that knows what there doing security wise bud.
Don’t see point in vpns tbh cause all these that say they don’t keep logs is a load of shite as they all do and some will kill speeds some won’t hardly touch your speeds.
Personally don’t use one not even for torrents can’t stand vpns suppose I like to be RAW 🤣🤣🤣

That dosnt make sense bud I read it as unless you have issues with vpn you will use it but you rarely use it???
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Well maybe I can't speak English properly anymore lol.

I meant that unless there's blocks or other issues I will use vpn but I tend to avoid use of vpn if I can with speeds being killed etc.
 
Joking a side there is a noticeable difference my other supply is very good
But you can tell the difference. Specially fast moving sports like footy, cricket etc.

As for using a VPN we will have to wait and see.
 
A VPN should be used if you are using IPTV or torrent, it's just silly if you don't. It's not about whether they keep logs, but Sly have a court case to allow ISP traffic monitoring which is how ISP blocks come about.
The high peak in streaming traffic during EPL games make it obvious when you have several hundred people connecting to a single IP a 3PM on a weekend. A VPN hides that traffic from your ISP and therefore protecting you and the longevity of your provider, it's not even about the logging. Even IF the logs are shared, well they first of all need to know that you were doing something that you shouldn't have, the VPN encrypts that traffic.
There are already cases where there have been arrests for watching it in the UK and other countries.

As for speed drops, why not just set that app to automatically turn on, only for the specific apps such as those used for watching this? Even if your speed drops by "60%" it makes no difference as you don't need high speeds to stream. And these streams didn't come about overnight, and as others have said have been around for a while. So why would they go now that the games are about to start again?

If the EPL blocks kick in, and a VPN can simply be turned on... then so what?
 
murkr said:
A VPN should be used if you are using IPTV or torrent, it's just silly if you don't. It's not about whether they keep logs, but Sly have a court case to allow ISP traffic monitoring which is how ISP blocks come about.
The high peak in streaming traffic during EPL games make it obvious when you have several hundred people connecting to a single IP a 3PM on a weekend. A VPN hides that traffic from your ISP and therefore protecting you and the longevity of your provider, it's not even about the logging. Even IF the logs are shared, well they first of all need to know that you were doing something that you shouldn't have, the VPN encrypts that traffic.
There are already cases where there have been arrests for watching it in the UK and other countries.

As for speed drops, why not just set that app to automatically turn on, only for the specific apps such as those used for watching this? Even if your speed drops by "60%" it makes no difference as you don't need high speeds to stream. And these streams didn't come about overnight, and as others have said have been around for a while. So why would they go now that the games are about to start again?

If the EPL blocks kick in, and a VPN can simply be turned on... then so what?
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A vpn will be no use if it’s the server that’s blocked and not an isp block!!! I was with sly for over 4year as my isp and never blocked even last season when following traffic with no vpn used at all still got to watch 3pm ko but I must just be lucky or provider has head screwed on.
There’s always ways round it without the use of vpns most providers tell end users to use vpn as easier for them to put their feet up lol
 
I have a vpn set to automatically connect when any iptv streaming app is opened, seems like a no brainer to me these days. If you mess around a bit with speed tests you can find a consistently good server to connect to - I use Surfshark with Switzerland or Holland. The only issue would be if your speeds are borderline for streaming without a vpn, in which case you might not be able to accommodate even a small drop in speed.
 
bazcfc1 said:
A vpn will be no use if it’s the server that’s blocked and not an isp block!!! I was with sly for over 4year as my isp and never blocked even last season when following traffic with no vpn used at all still got to watch 3pm ko but I must just be lucky or provider has head screwed on.
There’s always ways round it without the use of vpns most providers tell end users to use vpn as easier for them to put their feet up lol
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A server blocked?? Blocked from what lol. From transmitting data to the web?

That's not a thing. ISP blocks you connecting to an IP if the IP is added to the 'pool' that come under the terms in the court case, all major ISP's then feed in from this pool of IP's for them to block any traffic to/from during those events. Hence why having a VPN gets around it, as your traffic is no longer connecting to that IP to receive the data.

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murkr said:
A server blocked?? Blocked from what lol. From transmitting data to the web?

That's not a thing. ISP blocks you connecting to an IP if the IP is added to the 'pool' that come under the terms in the court case, all major ISP's then feed in from this pool of IP's for them to block any traffic to/from during those events. Hence why having a VPN gets around it, as your traffic is no longer connecting to that IP to receive the data.
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Servers can get blocked aswell look at like this if a server can’t get blocked as you say and it’s only isp block what about when you turn a vpn on and still can’t get to watch 3pm ko with different vpns different locations ect is that your isp aswell.
 
bazcfc1 said:
Servers can get blocked aswell look at like this if a server can’t get blocked as you say and it’s only isp block what about when you turn a vpn on and still can’t get to watch 3pm ko with different vpns different locations ect is that your isp aswell.
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Think about it, when you say "block the server", blocking from what exactly? You can't just 'block' a server from the whole internet. If you are on a VPN (and not some budget one), and still can't play anything then that's just their servers being overloaded.

The server is either up or down, you can't block a server from the whole internet, that's not a thing.

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I remember in the old days of cardshare in Wales 70% in a street were using the same service and the server owner was caught
 
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