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[steptoe]

That's the whole argument. Coax is better than mains. I'm not talking about cat5, just saying that compared to home plugs over mains MoCa is far superior.

at what cost?
it would be way cheaper to get someone in to install a proper ethernet connection, thus giving you a proper data connection at a better price,
you say your speed is much better, how many dropped packets do you get?

 

[adeh61]

I don't think it would be any cheaper. The idea is that its simple to set up. It took me a while to go for these because if the price but they are worth the money. When plugged into the modem I get around 50 meg when plugged in to the adaptor upstairs I get just over 49 so basically no difference.

 

[steptoe]

Nowhere near the performance of these as a wired setup I bet

you wouldnt make a good gambler,
how many packets do you lose on your co-ax set-up,?
and how good an ethernet cable are you using direct into your modem.? its actually a router, the modem is what connects the router to the outside network,
if you seriously are of the opinion that a bit of co-ax is a better data transmitter than a dedicated 'proper' ethernet cable then I'm done , there is no accounting for someones opinion,
actually, I'm surprised that everyone isnt still using co-ax if its that good,
the mind boggles, it really does,

Nowhere near the performance of these as a wired setup I bet

actually, I'm almost hitting 1G speeds over my internal network,
to the outside world its a different story, my speeds arent very high.
internally, I'm limited only by the fact the slowest of my routers is only 1G so it chokes everything else,
the fact I have only used cat5e doesnt even come into it as I'm nowhere near its capability length

 

[adeh61]

you wouldnt make a good gambler,
how many packets do you lose on your co-ax set-up,?
and how good an ethernet cable are you using direct into your modem.? its actually a router, the modem is what connects the router to the outside network,
if you seriously are of the opinion that a bit of co-ax is a better data transmitter than a dedicated 'proper' ethernet cable then I'm done , there is no accounting for someones opinion,
actually, I'm surprised that everyone isnt still using co-ax if its that good,
the mind boggles, it really does,

Sorry yes, I had it setup as a modem but as I said earlier I have now put it back in to router mode to enable wireless from it downstairs and plugged the other router in to the 2nd Moca adaptor to enable me to get very good wireless as well upstairs. The Ethernet cables connect to the router then coax to the TV socket. You can then choose any other TV socket in the house connect the 2nd MoCa adaptor to that and then Ethernet cable direct to a TV, playstation, computer or even a second router to give you even more options. I don't think you have started at the beginning of the thread.
I said my home plugs were poor in parts of the upstairs due to home plugs not working for me and the MoCa cured the problem and gave me very good network speed which was almost like being wired directly to the VM router downstairs.

 

[steptoe]

Sorry yes, I had it setup as a modem but as I said earlier I have now put it back in to router mode to enable wireless from it downstairs and plugged the other router in to the 2nd Moca adaptor to enable me to get very good wireless as well upstairs. The Ethernet cables connect to the router then coax to the TV socket. You can then choose any other TV socket in the house connect the 2nd MoCa adaptor to that and then Ethernet cable direct to a TV, playstation, computer or even a second router to give you even more options. I don't think you have started at the beginning of the thread.
I said my home plugs were poor in parts of the upstairs due to home plugs not working for me and the MoCa cured the problem and gave me very good network speed which was almost like being wired directly to the VM router downstairs.

how well do your moca snake oil boxes work with a multiswitch?
and you seriously think it would cost you £200 to get some ethernet cables run in? and have a proper connection

just had a quick google of these magic boxes,
seems to be an americun thing where their houses are actually wired in half decent coax for cable tv, proper quality RG6,
and simply have splitters all over the place,
wonder how they actually work in a UK house with a multiswitch,
or more common, a terrestrial amp and push on connections.

 

[adeh61]

just had a quick google of these magic boxes,
seems to be an americun thing where their houses are actually wired in half decent coax for cable tv, proper quality RG6,
and simply have splitters all over the place,
wonder how they actually work in a UK house with a multiswitch,
or more common, a terrestrial amp and push on connections.

There are plenty of uk houses wired up with TV points in all rooms
I could only find them on eBay.com but now they are appearing in the uk. They work great. You can carry on drilling holes in walls and trying to pull cables through all you like but for me they are ideal and would be for most people. You called them snake oil boxes and yet you have only just googled them. I checked them out on YouTube before I bought them to make sure they were any good and if you did the same you will see for yourself. The bloke even shows the speed test he runs before and after.

 

[steptoe]

There are plenty of uk houses wired up with TV points in all rooms
I could only find them on eBay.com but now they are appearing in the uk. They work great. You can carry on drilling holes in walls and trying to pull cables through all you like but for me they are ideal and would be for most people. You called them snake oil boxes and yet you have only just googled them. I checked them out on YouTube before I bought them to make sure they were any good and if you did the same you will see for yourself. The bloke even shows the speed test he runs before and after.

I have TV/sat/cable points in every room, some more than 1 point, some on a triplex or quadplex, will they work with those? will they work with a multiswitch? or a normal TV amp?
so many questions and no answers,,,,,,,
unlike the system they are designed for, most UK houses have all the tv points back to a distribution point,
usa houses have a cable feed in, and it simply splits multiple times to each room, no distribution amp or anything such, its more like how vermin give you multiroom, and with good quality co-ax
ok, so youtube are fact then, anyone can make a youtube video to show what they want it to show, maybe it was the UK distributor,,,,?
reminds me so much of Russ Andrews, does he sell these too.?

 

[adeh61]

I've told you I have them working, that's all you need to know. You obviously don't Like the idea. I have nine TV points working from a TV booster the MoCa adapters work better than anything I've tried before and the speed is a tiny fraction lower than direct ethernet to VM router.
The YouTube video is true reflection of the adaptors capabilities.
Have a look and learn.

 

[steptoe]

I've told you I have them working, that's all you need to know. You obviously don't Like the idea. I have nine TV points working from a TV booster the MoCa adapters work better than anything I've tried before and the speed is a tiny fraction lower than direct ethernet to VM router.
The YouTube video is true reflection of the adaptors capabilities.
Have a look and learn.

its not about not liking the idea,
I understand the physics of how they work, and those same physics are not compatible with a usual UK tv wiring system,
you have not answered a single one of my questions yet,
send me a set for evaluation and I'll do you a true review, or maybe you wont want a true review of a product you sell.?

 

[ste]

I would never pay that, If I wanted a better connection, i'd simply run an ethernet cable into the room at a much lesser cost.

 

[adeh61]

A lot don't want cables lying about. If you bothered to check them out you would see tour yourself. Anyway it was confirmed that coax is better than home plugs just as explained in the video.

 

[ste]

Easy enough to hide cables - you can bury them in the wall, you can run them around the outside of the house, under floorboards... or, just buy a router with a better Wi-Fi signal which will be much cheaper!

I watched Emmerdale on the tv last night, doesn't mean it's real ::

 

[adeh61]

Glad you like emmerdale.
The video is real, I've bought them and they work are you not able to understand that.
I don't want cables going around the house and I don't want to be pulling cables upstairs through walls. That's why it took so long to sortbthe problem out.
I always thought techking veterans and supporters new what they were talking about but the last couple of threads have proved me wrong.

 

[wheelo]

So you have had a good day
This thread will be removed as i have reported it :)

We are not your watchdogs, if you don't like his suggestion, pass the thread by, or have a discussion about the pros and cons.
Do not try to moderate, just report what you think is wrong, leave it to us to decide.

My reading of the other closed thread is that it was closed as ye were all arguing that this chap was selling, nothing else.

I am deleting all the nonsense posts, and opening the thread again, mo-one has to agree with the OP, but no-one has to post there either.

I have merged both threads, and re-opened!

 

[wheelo]

Coincidentally , i think that a lot of people missed the point, due in part to the way the first post is written, that this is an alternative to homeplugs only in houses where there are multi cable points.
It is an alternative specifically in houses where people cant/Won't run Ethernet cables ( in my house, cables are the work of the devil, apparently)
It is an expensive option, but I remember paying stupid money (120) for run through homeplugs, and couldn't get them to work at all, so I understand the frustration that would send you looking for an alternative, regardless of cost.

I personally don't think adeh is selling, but if I find evidence, it will be sorted.

 

[steptoe]

I still don't fully understand these devices - from what I think I understand is these devices run through co-axial and need co-axial cables around the home but then you need one of these boxes in each room to convert it back to ethernet? seems like a huge expense where you can just run a single ethernet upstairs for example into the floorspace then add a switch and put an ethernet port in each room.

having done a fair bit of research into this the past 24hrs, and spoke to various people,
if, and its a big if, your TV system is wired as per USA cable systems, they are pretty good,
ie: you have one cable enter your house, you put one of these at source, that cable then simply gets split using a very high quality cable splitter, ala vermin use, to each room, or split again using another high quality splitter,
all this is cabled in high grade co-ax, not the typical stuff that TVs in the UK are cabled in, and certainly not through a typical TV distribution amp or similar, never mind a multiswitch,.

in order to use this in any outlet you choose you have to have one cable feeding every outlet, or splice the feed cable direct to the room you wish to feed
I cant find any reasonable review of it that references anything but cable fed TV , and all USA style systems

 

[wheelo]

As usual, I will have the last reply as Steptoe, adeh, ste, dave, and Damien cannot play nicely together. I think Steptoe started by having the debate as he seems to have done some research on it, but it went downhill from there, and it became personal.

This is not for your average UK home, however it may help SOME people who had multi room fitted by VM or indeed when their houses were being built.

It is not a cheap alternative, it is just an alternative.

I am closing this thread, and i do not ecpect to see another one opened as this will remain here for all to see, and they can make their minds up.

Please remember that we pride ourselves on being a friendly forum every time you post.