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Questions and input regarding motorised set up on VIARK and ENIMGA 2

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joysleep1

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HI Peeps

So i currently have the ultimate package on my virgin media where i have sky sports TNT to watch my football which is mainly what this thread is about. That is now expiring this next month and the renewal costs are crazy expensive. In anticipation for this i already purchased a VIARK 4k 1M dish and twin black ultra LNB for future set up. I am not going to move to community fibre internet only.

The diagram i posted is what i plan to set up in a few months time.
I wanted to ask a few questions in regards to pretty much getting everything running the way i want it.

The person is quite experienced in installing sat dishes so i dont have to worry there but i wanted to ask what is the best way to set up the VIARK 4k box after he has finished installing it. What freq or channels are the hardest to receive and so might need tweaking etc? (currently have the forever server package on there)
Is USALS the best way of configuring multiple satellites? How long does it take to configure the VIARK after successful installation? If i am only interested in the football satellites, can i speed things up by disregarding the rest of the satellites to which do NOT concern me at all?
I will only focus on maybe setting up the VIARK (while installer is there) . Can i assume that setting up on the enigma 2 should be ok in terms of channels clearing esp with signal levels etc?

Another query i had is that you only see single LNBS with motorised dish but can a TWIN LNB work where for example if the main receiver (viark) is currently watching on satellite 16.e for example. Can my xtrend receiver also watch something on 16.e fully aware that it WONT control the motor but can still get the signal and play channels that a facing 16.e?

Lastly, what satellites am i expected to lock onto with a 100cm satellite dish based in SOUTH WEST LONDON? Am i safe to say i can most of the satellites that cover football EPL champions league la liga bundesliga etc?

Sorry for all the questions but it would be nice to get some more understanding of this
 

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I will try to answer some of your questions and leave others for those more knowledgeable as I consider myself a novice in this field..

USALS great for multiple sats..I have a 1m on motor and Zone 2 static work fine with a diseqc switch.

How long does it take setting up a Viark 4k ..I don't have one but most of these boxes are similar ...should be up and running in 30-40mins ..prob spend hours on tweaking channels etc. Yes you will save time concentrating on the few sat that show EPL with eng comms...UCL sadly none do so may have to do with foreign lang for that or audio from elsewhere.

100cm dish which is same as mine I can pickup most sats ..you prob being south will get bettet signal and pick up more than me if u have good line of sight.

Consider ensuring you also setup 7e, 10e and 1w just for feeds eg PPV boxing and football that can pop up which you will be able to tune in..that's as far as my knowledge goes ..

Good luck and be sure to post up pics of your setup 👍
 
If the dish is physically aligned to use USALS, then that is best option. That means any receiver you connect to the dish just has to be configured for USALS instead of saving and storing every position.

Yes, you can use multiple output LNBs on a motorised dish. Can be more than twin. As you said, other receivers cannot control the motor
 
I thought you had setup the Viark and used it elsewhere to test it out. Once the installation of the dish is done , connect your viark via USALS. have you added a motor euro channel list to the viark.
As long as the Dish is setup correctly your then good to go
 
Kyser143 said:
I will try to answer some of your questions and leave others for those more knowledgeable as I consider myself a novice in this field..

USALS great for multiple sats..I have a 1m on motor and Zone 2 static work fine with a diseqc switch.

How long does it take setting up a Viark 4k ..I don't have one but most of these boxes are similar ...should be up and running in 30-40mins ..prob spend hours on tweaking channels etc. Yes you will save time concentrating on the few sat that show EPL with eng comms...UCL sadly none do so may have to do with foreign lang for that or audio from elsewhere.

100cm dish which is same as mine I can pickup most sats ..you prob being south will get bettet signal and pick up more than me if u have good line of sight.

Consider ensuring you also setup 7e, 10e and 1w just for feeds eg PPV boxing and football that can pop up which you will be able to tune in..that's as far as my knowledge goes ..

Good luck and be sure to post up pics of your setup 👍
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HI

Appreciate you taking time out for your input.
So does USLAS basically work by the dish starting from 1W and then it scans all the channels from the satellites and the dish moves itself until its completed everything?
When "just for feeds" does that i mean i shall try and find a channel from each of these satellites and check if picture is ok and the SNR levels are OK?


Yh i will post a pic once it gets installed.
 
weimaraner95 said:
I thought you had setup the Viark and used it elsewhere to test it out. Once the installation of the dish is done , connect your viark via USALS. have you added a motor euro channel list to the viark.
As long as the Dish is setup correctly your then good to go
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HI

Again thanks for your input

Yes i bought it a few months ago but because i had all the channels on my virgin i borrowed this to my cousin who has a fixed dish. I told him he can get sky sports on it which he was thrilled about. I wanted him to test the server when watching the football and see how many times it goes dark or picture gets lost etc?

When you say added the euro channel list, do i do this now before the dish gets installed? How does the channel list help ? Does it organise the channels in order when it gets picked up?
 
You have a E2 receiver dont you? Did you scan the sat for channels or install a premade channels list when you set it up.

All be it a totally a different box the Viark , when you set it up, how did you put 28.2 (sky) on it to test ? .
A euro channel list just saves you time , you will not have to send the receiver to each sat to scan,
 
weimaraner95 said:
You have a E2 receiver dont you? Did you scan the sat for channels or install a premade channels list when you set it up.

All be it a totally a different box the Viark , when you set it up, how did you put 28.2 (sky) on it to test ? .
A euro channel list just saves you time , you will not have to send the receiver to each sat to scan,
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Yes i have a ultimo 4k. For 28.2 astra i just use the auto download boquets thing and it imported all the UK channels in seconds. This then organised all the channels like if it was official SKY Q if that makes sense

When i had the VIARK briefly i manually scanned astra channels cos i thought there was no other way, i know these boxes are not sophisticated enough to have auto bouquets. I just wanted to get picture as fast as possible to watch the match on SKy sports. (this was at my father in-laws place when i first had it)
But yh i guess i will do this EURO channel list when i get it back from my cousin. But surely the dish will need to move from 1w to all the satellites when initially importing the channels right?
 
joysleep1 said:
Yes i have a ultimo 4k. For 28.2 astra i just use the auto download boquets thing and it imported all the UK channels in seconds. This then organised all the channels like if it was official SKY Q if that makes sense

When i had the VIARK briefly i manually scanned astra channels cos i thought there was no other way, i know these boxes are not sophisticated enough to have auto bouquets. I just wanted to get picture as fast as possible to watch the match on SKy sports. (this was at my father in-laws place when i first had it)
But yh i guess i will do this EURO channel list when i get it back from my cousin. But surely the dish will need to move from 1w to all the satellites when initially importing the channels right?
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Yes and no.
So you know how a channel list works as you used them on your ultimo.

Just like you installed the list on your E2 box thus saving you time from scanning each sat on the Viark .
You can import a euro channel list in your Viark and when you select the satellite and channel to view ( clear) the motor via usals will move the dish for you and the channel will open
 
weimaraner95 said:
Yes and no.
So you know how a channel list works as you used them on your ultimo.

Just like you installed the list on your E2 box thus saving you time from scanning each sat on the Viark .
You can import a euro channel list in your Viark and when you select the satellite and channel to view ( clear) the motor via usals will move the dish for you and the channel will open
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Right ok i think i get what you mean. Do you have a link of a reliable euro channel list i can download this from? I can install this onto the VIARK via USB right?
 
weimaraner95 said:
Yes and no.
So you know how a channel list works as you used them on your ultimo.

Just like you installed the list on your E2 box thus saving you time from scanning each sat on the Viark .
You can import a euro channel list in your Viark and when you select the satellite and channel to view ( clear) the motor via usals will move the dish for you and the channel will open
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So by doing it this way, would i be able to view and test all channels pretty much minutes after dish installation?
 
weimaraner95 said:
It's somewhere on the main viark thread , usb yes

Yes should all be working after installation
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So if i upload the the channel list as discussed, does that pretty much cover all the satellites i going to need ? ( 7e, 10e and 1w these for example). Or am i going to have to add extra channels by manually scanning the satellite on the desired freq
If by doing it this way, does it mean i do NOT have to blind scan if that makes sense.

Thanks
 
joysleep1 said:
So if i upload the the channel list as discussed, does that pretty much cover all the satellites i going to need ? ( 7e, 10e and 1w these for example). Or am i going to have to add extra channels by manually scanning the satellite on the desired freq
If by doing it this way, does it mean i do NOT have to blind scan if that makes sense.

Thanks
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Doing this means whatever sats and channels the kind gent who created the list will be replicated on your device . Now channel frequencies do change and some get added so you may still need to tweak if needed...but it's a great start and saves u time scanning...

Regards sats 1w etc as you mentioned sats I referred to in a earlier post...these could well be on this list to only one way of finding out...then you monitor the feeds thread on here and of anything catches your eye to watch ..u turn dish to that sat and add the frequency posted in feed thread.
 
Kyser143 said:
Doing this means whatever sats and channels the kind gent who created the list will be replicated on your device . Now channel frequencies do change and some get added so you may still need to tweak if needed...but it's a great start and saves u time scanning...

Regards sats 1w etc as you mentioned sats I referred to in a earlier post...these could well be on this list to only one way of finding out...then you monitor the feeds thread on here and of anything catches your eye to watch ..u turn dish to that sat and add the frequency posted in feed thread.
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Oh ok thanks for that. Interesting
 
Kyser143 said:
Doing this means whatever sats and channels the kind gent who created the list will be replicated on your device . Now channel frequencies do change and some get added so you may still need to tweak if needed...but it's a great start and saves u time scanning...

Regards sats 1w etc as you mentioned sats I referred to in a earlier post...these could well be on this list to only one way of finding out...then you monitor the feeds thread on here and of anything catches your eye to watch ..u turn dish to that sat and add the frequency posted in feed thread.
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So is 1w (or maybe others for example) not like a traditional satellite freq where the dish would automatically move when you select a channel on there. When you say "turn the dish and add the freq" this a manual number you input on the receiver and the dish would point there?
 
On all receivers, when you select a channel, the receiver will tell the dish to go to the satellite that the channel is on.

If a particular frequency is not on your channel list, you can also tell the receiver which satellite and frequency to scan. It will then move dish to that satellite.
 
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